Golden Spider Awards?

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mneylon

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I met the organisers at the event the other night and they expressed an interest in meeting with me to discuss matters. I don't think they were overly happy with the industry's perception of the awards and may be interested in taking steps to improve it for next year.
 
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Well at least that's something positive.

I think some transparency in their dealings would be a good first step.

An explicit definition of what 'excellence' is would also help.
 
mneylon

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We'll have to wait and see.

If the meeting goes ahead it will be sometime in the new year
 
davidbehan

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Michele... you got your pics back yet? You didn't appear in any of mine but spotted you in the "official" ones!! I put a few up on my blog but had to keep a good few back because some of the people in them might not appreciate them floating around!!! I'll tell you again sometime!!

On another note... I found where Richard got the wrong address for Raymond Potterton. It was on the ENN site ( ElectricNews.net:News:RTE snares three Golden Spiders. I'd say people are looking up In Memory of Raymond Potter and saying "how did that site win a golden spider!!!!" Following on from other posts in this thread... that's probably being said about actual winners.

Good news there Michele. Would be interested to hear the minutes from that meeting and also interested in hearing the scoring methods!

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RedCardinal said:
What I'm really curious to hear is what the points/scoring etc. were. I think that theMenace has requested feedback on the scoring and was promised this once the awards were finished?

Cant wait to hear how he gets on :D
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I'm not in the country at the moment but I will go about getting the scoring breakdown when I get home. I don't know if they'll be forthcoming but it's worth a try - particularly seeing as it cost me good money to enter.
 
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blacknight said:
I met the organisers at the event the other night and they expressed an interest in meeting with me to discuss matters. I don't think they were overly happy with the industry's perception of the awards and may be interested in taking steps to improve it for next year.
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That sounds quite promising. Let us know how you get on.
 
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Um... I always thought the Golden Spiders was a pay-to-win kind of thing? Are the results actually independent?
 
daviddoran

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Hmm.. that's a controversial one there dude.
Legally and officially it is a pay-to-enter contest with the judges selected from different areas.
However since it is a pay-to-play contest and some of the sponsors actually won other categories it does beg into question where the results come from.
 
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It's also slightly coincidental that not all the shortlisters actually fork out 1800 Europes for a table, yet 99% of the time the winner is present on the night. Essentially, if you make it to the shortlist and you REALLY want the award, you must purchase a table at the event. Their PR people will ensure you do pay for your award by hounding you on the phone. No payment for dinner table... no award (except in a few occasions in the awards history)

Short answer - yes. It is a paid for award - arbitrary to a point and with agenda to a point.
 
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I have won three - two for archiseek and one for p45 and never paid any money - not for entry fees (always free category) or tables
 
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who really cares

No matter what you say , to get the award is a good thing for your firm. I have not yet seen some one who has won the award and refused it on moral standards grounds.
 
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TheMenace

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willows said:
No matter what you say , to get the award is a good thing for your firm.
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Eh, yeah. That's the problem. It's good for firms/businesses. i.e. it awards poor Web design resulting in the promotion and perpetuation of more poor Web design. No matter what you say, it awards poor Web design. What's good about that? What's your point if you don't mind me asking? As a Web professional, this is a very bad thing.
 
Redfly

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TheMenace said:
Eh, yeah. That's the problem. It's good for firms/businesses. i.e. it awards poor Web design resulting in the promotion and perpetuation of more poor Web design. No matter what you say, it awards poor Web design. What's good about that? What's your point if you don't mind me asking? As a Web professional, this is a very bad thing.
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LOL, he's off!

The Menace. I'm thinking about running a campaign using any means necessary to get you to win an award this year. If it is successful, will you vent ON STAGE at the awards? ;)
 
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LOL, he's off!

The Menace. I'm thinking about running a campaign using any means necessary to get you to win an award this year. If it is successful, will you vent ON STAGE at the awards? ;)
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I wouldn't accept one. Nor would I enter any of my work into them again seeing as they're a proven farce beyond any shadow of doubt. As for saying I'm "off" and the patronising wink; suffice to say that you're not obliged to agree with me. If you think the Golden Spiders are a benchmark of quality then you're entitled to. ;)
 
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